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the Midlands in northern England tonight drier in Scotland in the south with a low of six tomorrow scattered showers for most with a high of 19 degrees from Global's newsroom for LBC M nice Aziz this is lvc from global leading britain's conversation the nigel farage show Thank You Donald and good evening everybody well remember there are 10 runners and riders in the race to become the next leader of the Conservative Party and the next prime minister of our country and the campaign is kicking into full gear more launches today and one of the central arguments is the 31st of October why that day we'll remember article 50 expired on March the 29th and our prime minister told us mrs. may 108 times we would leave on that date we didn't then we were told we might leave on the 12th of April we didn't then we were told we'd leave for the 30th of June out of course there was no way that was going to happen so now the 31st of October is beginning to embed itself in people's minds very much the same way as March the 29th did and one of the key dividing lines between these 10 candidates is what are their attitudes to work Ward's whether we absolutely need to leave on that date or not while launching her campaign this morning was Andrea led sermon she feels very strongly about the 31st of October fulfilling that Democratic decision is now urgent and vital it cannot and will not be put off any longer leaving the EU on the 31st of October is for me a hard red line a hard red line and yet mark Harper now you may never have heard of Mark Harper but he is one of the 10 candidates Mark Harper launched his campaign today and profoundly disagreed the bit where I perhaps will make myself not popular with my colleagues is when I say that it is not going to be possible to leave on the 31st of October I would love to I voted against extending article 50 twice but not enough people in Parliament did so so it's a red line or it simply cannot practically be done and the other launch today is the ever eccentric Rory Stewart who has launched his leadership bid from inside a tent in central London and he thinks he's got all the answers let's hear Rory one of the fundamental things that distinguishes my campaign from the other campaigns is I do not believe in promising what we cannot deliver but I do not believe in pretending that you're going to get some new deal out of Europe before the 31st of October I don't believe in pretending that there is something called no deal that you're going to be able to drive through Parliament well there you are no such thing as no deal and no real change to the existing deal and looks to me like Rory Stewart is saying basically 31st of October is too difficult Stewart has spoken for an extraordinary amount of time and he's still going let's let's cross live to Rory Stewart in the competition for who's standing for the title of the greatest clown in this race they're making some competition well I have to say you've got to hand it to Rory Stewart I don't agree with him on policy but he's actually in many ways set alight this campaign he's been going around the country you know turning up outside the tube station embarking and putting out on Twitter come and meet me he's launching from inside a tent that's been used for basically so versatile virtually circus acts over the years and he's making it fun he's making it entertaining he's catching the mood on social media he's doing I think in many ways a remarkable job with his campaign but the 31st of October basically half the candidates are saying we absolutely must leave on that date Deal or No Deal and the other half are saying it just isn't going to be possible or we're gonna have to consider extending further I want to ask you how important do you think this date of the 31st of October to leave the European Union is and if you think one night it actually come on relax a bit if it takes a few more months past that date it doesn't really matter call oh three four five six oh six oh nine seven three or maybe you think for another big set date to pass without us leaving would be a second betrayal text two eight four eight five oh and tell me how important do you think this is for the future of the Conservative Party that we leave on that day please tweets using hash far out and lbc at OBC abacus Facebookers watching us can comment there – Keith M Romsey is a new caller good evening Keith yeah I do not do your ID like I'm doing alright now we got some very divergent views here led some it's a hard red line mark Harper it ain't gonna happen how much does it matter well listen Lori's Rory still smart with his IBM than in India Saturday though he spilled snow in cocaine the way he carried on jump jump jumping around Keith that may be I think to say that two candidates to be on X prime minister are still on drugs is probably unfair I know that I'm just my I'm just making it a very luck like hi alright alright but look at the facts when they all started off I put themselves now I've got a sign near you then I started doing all Marisa all my research now the only research I could get was through social media so this is our spider off her foot to myself at first I thought I know how do I leave the EU in the fall you know what after three normal research I'm watching you Nigel watching you over in the EU and how proud I am of you personally getting over there and sorts and more out because it needs someone like you but there's only three people there's only three people that I can see that excite Felice but I've west there was a good card mmm being as a past history I thought you know what this woman knows what she's talking about and then they said there's only three people that can get us out here you and that's you because you're you are on the platform not getting mainstream media too much of it but you are getting there with it the brexit pie right obviously we've got robbed until Brook and crime more which Keith and and Robyn's hilber at least English Democrats he's taking a court action to say that the extension of article 50 was illegal for those who don't know but Keith realistically the next prime minister in less than 50 days will come from this list of 10 you clear are a brexit ear if we don't leave on October the 31st we've got to write okay I mean we've got to leave and what and what if we don't the mainstream media to start looking at what's going on well people do people do step outside and you can go on you can go on social media Keith but as with many things you can find some great information there and some rubbish stuff as well right Keith says we have to leave on that day Paul Ince abandoned just down the road from him is another new caller good evening Paul good I'm fine thank you so so I'm saying we're gonna leave on that date some say we're probably not going to how much does it actually matter Paul I think it matters immensely well your necklace 13 and all these left wing whiny people going there on about democracy and yet they're funding democracy by with using delete and I think what they should do is actually start stacking these MPs that I've actually gone against their constituents I think it's outrageous that they've been refused to carry out and instruction from welcome speechless Paul but Paul they're going to tell people like you you didn't really understand the implications of what you voted for and and and and Paul it could do great economic damage that's what they'll tell you absolutely rubbish sorry I was listening to Jeremy Vine today and and there are people on about their ten year old children are living in fear a breakfast how bad are the BBC's when they get when they're peddling this rubbish I just can't believe what's going on so if we don't leave on that date or what does it mean for the Conservative Party well unfortunately I think that conservatives now are fighting you and there's the sense of ROI is going to get is gonna get slit people going to go with you I mean I the only time I've ever voted in 47 years and that was to get the hell out of Europe that's the only time I've ever vote without that that was your first your first vote of your life yeah that was the only time I ever thought that it's worth voting for was to get the hell out of you because I'm in a transport industry and all the Europeans that have swarmed over here they've held down wages in my industry you know they've taken jobs all over the place and I and I see it every day I come across it every day and also perhaps some unfair competition in that industry yeah absolutely I mean you see these these felons always on the road you know I know you know it's just absolutely I mean they're not paying any taxes over there they're destroying our roads you don't even know what weight they are and different safety standards that yeah I know well maybe they do some random night checks on the m20 some of the figures about lorries from parts of the EU and safety are pretty shocking Paul thank you for your call thank you for your passion I mean let me say this that you know you've got candidates like Boris Johnson Dominick Rob esta McVeigh you know they are bigging up the 31st of October if one of them was to win and then we didn't leave on the 31st of October I think that would be viewed by many millions of conservative voters as being a second betrayal and I think it would far outweigh any short-term economic shocks that we might have if we're not properly prepared I think for the Conservative Party here on in it would be a catastrophe and yet already there are many candidates saying we cannot leave on that date or we should consider delaying Michael Gove saying that Jeremy how this sort of perhaps thing Rory Stuart pretty clearly saying we don't have to leave on that date I tell you what if they don't I believe they're in very real trouble tell me what do you think how much does it matter that we leave on the 31st of October you're listening to the 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May decided to lift it and to extend the legislation and Andrea Letson is arguing that our legislation now says we should leave we will leave on the 31st of October and she says a tough Prime Minister can make sure that happens yeah I don't remember it exactly the same like a noob you've obviously got a much better feel for the politics and the big gala tease of it and I have but I did seem to to remember the feeling that it was a hopeless case and that the speaker was going to allow a amendment to prevent the No Deal happening on the 29th of March as I recall well yeah and Parliament did vote on that but that vote of itself that vote of itself the one thing the speaker can't do is is is to make the government change existing legislation that's something must be absolutely cannot do now there could be you know a human cry in a crisis I mean carry you know if Rory Stewart is right and if it is impractical and impossible to leave on the 31st of October and you know we've got a new European Commission coming in and all sorts of distractions in Brussels but don't you think the real thing that's been broken here is trust yeah I mean I suppose that's my point it's you know it's maybe not I mean I may be wrong and the analysis but I think it's unfair that Teresa may having promised so many times it was it boils down to whether she was allowed to or not if she could have then said okay we're gonna go out well whatever happens then yes she's working the class but if she was prevented then I think it would be fair to say that she hasn't broken the trust I think well I think the problem is as as the documentary on on Europe as a couple of weeks ago showed it was the remainders who were the problem and who discovered scold the saboteurs could we agree on the word because that's whatever else do wasn't it I mean you could accuse people of all sorts of things but I think it you know the whatever the results of the referendum the Democratic result was that we would leave and we should have left I think to try and prevent that happening was probably not you know not whatsoever it appropriate and Gary thank you I'm gonna move on Angela says apart from the voters delays are destroying business well they're certainly slowing up business investment because we want their business wants this done and dusted Rory would make a great leader for the Lib Dems says Chris in Darlington and Colin on Facebook says how many more dates will be given if we don't leave on the 31st there are more numbers on my lottery ticket well or a child's advent calendar was another suggestion I heard let's go to Robin I hate with he was faking to before good evening Robin hello Nigel the question I think was will we believe in on the 31st and I honestly don't think we will because I think Parliament's have no idea what leaving means you know I mean they all want something differently even means something different to all of them and so in 2016 give it in Nuuk it now you didn't break it so you've changed you mean so why is everyone online that you don't think I've changed my chin too much Robin do you well why didn't you just go back to you kids now we've got the Tories you know they let their split no what does it mean to you Nigel it is very simply Robin very very simply that we're an independent self-governing nation end off so does that mean by the way I bought it to leave I hope we can have deals of all kinds with countries all over the world all sorts of stuff we can do and actually leaving on WTO terms or as Andrea Nets and colleagues they a managed exit there will be deals between us on aviation etc many many other things my probably Robin for me Robin the problem will be this what our laws effectively be set somewhere else over which we will have no say would it go on costing us a fortune and ultimately could a foreign court judge over matters that affect our lives that's what brexit means to me well can I ask you another question Nigel Wright the concert is the breath of Tears I don't think any of them can agree what a brexit means none of them know what leave and maybe also different things now I must say you said they're about our loss I could say I bought Italy and I want to leave but at all of what I don't wanna leave word across any one a job and I didn't trust this government to make our laws look at the message the medes is their absolute shambles well Robin if one of them could say Oh Nigel what actually leaving me does it does it mean nationalize Robin Robin it means we could do whatever we like because we would be in charge and we would make those decisions leaving means freedom to make her own decisions and we might make good decisions and we might make bad decisions but the people making those decisions would be directly accountable to us that's the Democratic argument for exit well I think a lot of people who actually boarded leave that I've put off with what the scene now I think here was another referendum I think most people are just there you know what to stay in because we don't want to poop but then is it anymore well actually what I'm seeing Robin with brexit fatigue and that's what you're identifying what I'm actually seeing more with brexit fatigue is people saying to hell with it let's just get out even if there are some short-term bumps in the road let's get out and move on and having the truth of it is if you look at the recent elections and polls you know it's still it's still 52 48 believe and not that much has actually changed Robin thank you very much Boris will win I get by text Boris will delay Boris will be forced out and the next Tory leader will continue delaying until the Tory party is extinct says Archie well I have to say I think it is for the Conservative Party a very very serious issue I am staggered that nearly half the candidates to be the next prime minister are prepared to contemplate not leaving on the 31st of October I think for them and for trust in politics that would be a 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aspect of this is you know mrs. may's deal as they call it which isn't mrs. may's deal it's monsieur barney is treaty and that is what it is but how interesting that mark Harper tells us he's going to go back to Brussels and open a real transparent discussion to change the backstop Michael Gove is gonna go back to Brussels and negotiate changes to the backstop Matt Hancock is going to seek a time limit to the backstop Jeremy Hunt says there is the prospect of doing a better deal well I'm sorry folks but Michel Barnea has already said that a new prime minister will not change the problem every brexit he insisted conservative hopefuls looking to replace to resume will not be able to reshape the withdrawal agreement listen to him the program is still there and he found any one of the candidate older in this race I will ask him what is your solution to solve the problem create by the brexit you want to deliver the bracket okay tell me what is your solution and of course there is no solution because they've got their treaty they're not gonna reopen it what they may do is change the wording of the political declaration that's the next bit looking ahead for the next few years which of course is not legally enforceable so one way and another I think many of these candidates to be the next Tory leader and Prime Minister are making exactly the same mistakes that mrs. May made and we're just if one of those was to win we're just going nowhere with this we have to surely we have to leave don't we all the 31st of October I don't know you tell me James is calling from Malta and there's a new caller good evening James good very good to hear it now tell me how much how much does this date actually matter in your opinion I'm now 21 I hope this when I was living in the UK to remain at personal reasons of my own but how important it is the democracy be upheld by the so called people who are supposed to be our leaders and if I'm on it I see these new Conservative MPs that want to be running the country and running the party saying these are our red lines these are James James James can you speak a little bit more closely into the microphone please yes so we we hear these red lines from people like we had three Simoes joins you know from these conservative MPs that want to run the country and run the party and what's to say that they won't do exactly what Theresa made it and just cross out all those red lines in one last sailing account to make break that's what happen again the Queen's young lady yeah to make this work is leaving on the WTO legs it it's as simple as that and that is because predominantly you think the main argument is that it's about democracy yeah completely about this and the one thing he said to me is he said that the shambles that have been caused not just by the Conservative Party but by Parliament in total trying to block right there every opportunity possible and both the country to have absolutely no faith if you want to hear about a no-confidence though the country has no confidence in Parliament I think you're right James and there's a big division here between the people and power evening Nigel maybe the candidates should all promise that if they've not taken us out with the 31st of October they will stand down and call a general election if they want our trust back that is what should happen says Andy in Portsmouth well Andy it may well be that if if one of the people who's saying we must leave on October the 31st who knows it could be Boris you know they could face a situation where Parliament stops them leaving on WTO and maybe in those circumstances a general election would be the only way out incredible how these Tories cheerfully say we cannot possibly leave on October the 31st the date was only set last month at least I guess they're being honest well honest in a sense I guess but I you know honestly there's breakdown of trust between politics and the people it's getting worse Chris is calling from Birmingham and is another new corner good evening Chris fine I don't welcome to the show so does this date matter or what extending it for a few more weeks or months if it meant a better deal not really massa well I fundamentally think that is absolutely critical that we try to get the best deal we can one of the things I found in the least campaign one of the things that was most spoken about were the free trade agreement and I was in Norway thoughts I know you yourself mentioned on numerous occasions as well during that time period I think it's fundamentally a problem if we leave on WTO considering that the WTO is basically the old safety net I can't choose opting to jump onto the safety net to be honest well I mean Chris you're right WTO are the base rules aren't they for well trade and then you use that and you build upon it I mean just a thought Chris just sort of try this on you so before we even discuss a trade deal with the European Union we've got to pay 39 billion we've got to accept the fact that for some time to come they will make the laws in our country with us having no say and yet America happy to have a tariff and quote of free deal with us it's to be negotiated I get it but to have that deal with us without us paying a penny without any foreign Court having diction and without the 90% of the economy that is not gonna export they're not being tied by rules set in Washington in a sense leaving on WTO and being able to do deals with countries like America doesn't begin to look quite attractive well the problem you've got there is you have a global powerhouse in the United States of America versus the United Kingdom so let's be honest we are not there's a global superpower that we used to be and certainly not in trade anymore most of our GDP it comes in services you see the fundamental problem you have is yes the 39 billion should be paid whether we go on WTO or not why of course I fundamentally believe that we made commitments I would not if I was moving into a house where friends and I started to pull out a week before I want to say oh hey I'm not putting any money towards Chris oh yeah Chris Chris let me just say this to you very quickly the reason it's thirty nine billion is because what mrs. may had built-in to this new treaty agreement was a two-year implementation period so effectively we were staying members of the EU in all but name for a further two years and paying two more years contributions when the House of Lords looked at this they thought the maximum in their view and they're quite it's got a remain a House of Lords their view was the maximum liability was nine billion but when you start looking at the things to leave without the thirty nine billion almost seems relatively small compared to what we would lose if we went on to WTO and let's be honest it was Chris why why because if we didn't pay this 39 million the EU have no further need necessarily to her well basically they could afford sports at the back of the queue at that point because we're dealing in bad faith I think they've dealt in bad faith in many ways for years and years and years before we even reached the brexit referendum it's one of the reasons we've added to leave isn't it I think there's in fairness yeah you know I mean that's okay the relationship broke down we voted to leave I don't think we owe them any money at all frankly there are some pension liabilities for 22,000 people who've worked here over the years and are still alive or they're all there are still alive we could simply take that off the e use books take it onto our own and I tell you something they also last nine to ten billion through the European Investment Bank Chris to me we could simply call it quits but but this is an argument that will run around Chris isn't a free trade deal with America and maybe one more Canada on Australia and maybe India isn't that beginning to look more attractive indeed yeah but I also agree that the EU being one of the largest trading bloc's under what well probably the largest trading bloc in the world would also obviously have its benefit so I don't think that should be skipped out purely for if we can get a free trade agreement with the EU which one well the emitters made did turndown she did well Chris I reckon negotiate one with America strengthen your hand get a new leader who says we are leaving on the 31st we'll leave on whatever terms we have to I think in those circumstances we might just get what a majority of the country might may well come around Chris thank you very much indeed we will not be leaving I get on Twitter on October the 31st brexit will be dead and buried by them well I don't know James I don't know I don't think brexit can ever be dead and buried because I think the genie is out of the bottle and the public wants it you're listening to the Nigel Farage show here on ABC at 6:45 and time for news headlines will Lisa receives the International Development Secretary Rory Stewart has officially launched his campaign to be the next Tory leader and Prime Minister saying the choice people face in the contest is between fantasy and reality over promises to deliver brexit Oxfam's received an official warning following a major report into sexual misconduct claims against its staff after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti survivors and relatives of many of those killed and 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oh three four five six zero six zero nine seven three will the new Prime Minister take us out of the European Union on October the 31st half the candidates running say yes the other half say well maybe not there could be a delay some even say it would be impossible Frank asked me on Facebook are the No Deal promises a trick or treaty well fair point because it is Halloween the 31st of October michael says council the parliamentary recess and all party conferences until we leave they haven't earned their holidays I think Michael many listening would agree with that and Andy says the 31st of October is very important to me it's my wife's birthday and brexit would be a great present let's go to Elaine who is calling from Watford Elaine should we leave on that day or what a few weeks more as Michael Gove hinted better deal go on she first of October and I think the leadership contenders who are saying that they'll delay that it may not be the 31st of October so rooster Matt Hancock go vet out all the contenders who think that somehow they can renegotiate the deal they're not fit to be p.m. they might be ok they've led a political life they haven't got any common sense they lack pragmatism they would be completely hopeless as negotiators because they don't understand the basic position if we left without doing a No Deal well there are already deals in place that Airlines to take off and citizens rights a lot of things have been greediest No Deal is misleading term is leave on the 31st of October the European Union leaders will come out for us Germany doesn't want to see its industry damaged they will come out stress for a deal the basic pragmatic position should should be been prepared to walk away and then we'll get the deal we want but these these names are they these names they need mention they think they're protecting you because they think there could be some form of economic catastrophe no I think the continued uncertainty for business and the humiliation of Britain in the world let's get back on the world stage trade with the rest of the world yes the US will do a deal with us but there's a lot going on and either in India there's a big world outside they're not that's not quite true alone you know I mean Europe is the European Union is 15 percent of global GDP it's 38 to 40 percent of our overseas trade it is very important but it is declining every single year Elaine I get your messages loud and clear John a nice currents that is a new corner good evening John hello there so John how much does the 31st of October matter as a date well I think it's these massively over to you to be honest with you right yeah it's very simple isn't it their major law we're supposed to leave on the 29th of March yep the laws been broken well the law was missing he decided to change the law by extending it that was what happened yeah but you know you know all these arguments that we've had these arguments left London Center me the fact is we voted to leave and the salary Nancy yeah yeah yes we we didn't know what we were voting for blah blah I mean I actually voted to go into the a thing called the corn market oh yeah don't worry little head it'll all be fine no absolutely that's it symptom Jena Miller said right we should do this by Act of Parliament which is which and she was right she was actually right yes okay we went into Europe by Act of Parliament and would John John John I tell you what I tell you what the most then one of the most impressive pieces of polling I saw was because on the 30th of March millions of people woke up and realize we haven't left their opinion polling in the next week that showed 92% of leave voters felt they've been betrayed over brexit I mean do you sense there's real anger in the country over this or did it will just get over it in the end there is anger there is anger out there John yeah okay do we just want to leave and we do get a story well there we are there we are and real Edison said much the same thing today John I'm going to move on time is tight go to Cardiff to speak to Rodri is a new call org leave me Roderick good evening Roderick no okay sorry the question the question I got to you then is obviously we've got this kind of a preliminary trade agreement with South Korea I believe this is a modular breakfast that's right [Applause] what are your thoughts on kind of stalling Breck they've been setting up these prelim known or deal agreements before we actually pull the other art i thoughts are Roger II we've had three years and about all they've come up with is Switzerland and South Korea what the hell is Liam Fox's department doing I also got I also got the impression Roger II when I was met the American administration and some of their senior figures last week talking to some of them I got the impression that America is absolutely ready to put its side of the negotiation for a trade deal on the table and we've done precious little so I mean you know there's a breach of trust I think between Parliament politics and the people but also they just look incompetent Rodri in my view yeah I mean do you think well that we should have already been stacking up these preliminary no deals I mean of course we should of course we should and I look we've still got four and a half months until we do to leave a government and a prime minister that was serious on delivering on the will of the people understood who understood our business negotiations work would now be calling in a team of business people and I've volunteered some of our people to help with this and yet they're not you know white Rodri they're not serious are they no I agree with you I mean what were your thoughts eyes are on Cannes UK kind of like the free movement of people more of a relationship that we've got with the EU now but with Canada New Zealand because I know that kind of looking outside of the EU and what will go on after the you because that's why I think people are scared off I think people are scared of leaving EU because they don't know what's gonna happen after well well I don't want free movement of people but what I do want us to do is to stop discriminating against some parts of the world in favor of free movement for others and I think there is a sensible deal to be done here and also we should genuinely draw a distinction between people come into work and come in a settle Roger I'm gonna squeeze it one more caller I'm gay too reading to speak to Liam another new caller good evening Liam good afternoon how are you doing hello that we're doing alright so does that date of October 31st does it really really matter so I believe personally that that date the Tories do not actually have to leave by that date and actually my view and justification behind that is because you may trust earlier with betraying the people if we don't leave on that date when in fact I personally believe that a lot of leave voters voted because of the because of a good deal that was promised by the leave campaign and in fact leaving on that date with no deal would be a betrayal of all those people that actually voted for a good deal that they were promised I didn't deal of any kind I've voted to leave but the motivations behind many people who voted to leave were due to the manifesto well not manifest they were due to the promises well as obtained but taking taking back control of our borders taking back control of our money taking back control of our laws if you look at all the big top lines that levers used getting a good deal barely featured well I think a lot of I think a lot of I mean terms of the legalities behind the leave campaign what's your opinion behind the fact that the leave campaign have been prosecuted and oh I think if you take I think if you take on the establishment in this country that always find fault we're out of time we genuinely are Liam I'm sorry I'm back tomorrow at 6:00 at 10:00 tonight is Thom Swarbrick but up next it's iandale thank you very much Nigel we're coming up on the program tonight we have double bubble in the Tory leadership contest at 8:00 Andrea led some she's launched her campaign today she's going to be joining me for an hour-long grilling by me and indeed you if you want to put your question to Andrea let's um or indeed estimate vay she's going to be joining me between 9 and 10 the number to call Oh three four five six oh six oh nine seven three I wonder whether estimate they will be bringing that photo of Margaret Thatcher with her that she had on the lectern yesterday I might ask her out that I thought that was some a little odd to say the least and rule Edison's had a very very busy